World of Tanks

Sandbox Server: Further adjustments to HE Shells

October 22, the Sandbox server will receive a small update. On the first iteration, the minimum effectiveness values of high-explosive shells were tested. Now on the second iteration, Wargaming is searching for the optimal effectiveness value, taking in consideration the frequency these shells are used in battle.

  • The damage of all HE shells will be increased by 75%. This should affect the effectiveness and popularity of all HE shells, both low and high calibre.
  • Damage drop in the splash radius will be corrected. Along the edge, it will change from 0.1 to 0.5. Also, damage distribution in the splash radius will be made evener. This change will improve the potential to deal damage when hitting external modules.
  • The probability of dealing critical damage to modules will be increased.
  • The angle of spall spread on damage to internal modules will be increased from 45 to 60 degrees.
  • Splash radius mechanics will be reconfigured to do more damage. This will be most noticeable for low-armoured vehicles.
  • Discrepancies in some HE shells’ damage numbers compared to version 1.5 (state of the game Sandbox is based on) will be fixed.

Please be aware, all values are a test and not final, meaning they might not come to the live server. Values are for the best gun on each vehicle and only for HE ammunition.

To better understand the changes, I’ve compiled a list of vehicles and their current HE damage values, with a comparison with both Sandbox iterations.

Tier I
Tank Live Server Sandbox #1 Sandbox #2
MS-1 62 20 40
Pz.Kpfw. I Moved from Tier II to I Moved from Tier II to I
T1 Cunningham 36 15 25
Renault FT No HE No HE No HE
Cruiser Mk. I Moved from Tier II to I Moved from Tier II to I
Kolohousenka 65 25 40
Renault NC-31 42 15 25
Renault Otsu 55 20 35
4TP 70 25 45
Strv fm/21 16 5 10
Fiat 3000 45 15 30
Tier II
Tank Live Server Sandbox #1 Sandbox #2
BT-2 62 20 40
T-60 50 20 30
Pz.Kpfw. II Moved from Tier III to II Moved from Tier III to II
M2 Light Tank 50 20 30
FCM 36 45 15 30
Cruiser Mk. II Moved from Tier III to II Moved from Tier III to II
Type 95 Ha-Go 95 35 60
Strv m/38 50 20 30
Tier III
Tank Live Server Sandbox #1 Sandbox #2
T-70 65 25 40
T-46 65 25 40
Pz.Kpfw. III Ausf. E 90 30 55
Pz.Kpfw. II Ausf. G 40 15 25
M3 Stuart 50 20 30
AMX 38 70 25 45
Somua S35 70 25 45
Valentine Moved from Tier IV to III Moved from Tier IV to III
Type 97 Chi-Ha 90 30 55
Strv m/40L 50 20 30
Tier IV
Tank Live Server Sandbox #1 Sandbox #2
BT-7 Moved from Tier III to IV Moved from Tier III to IV
SU-76M Moved from Tier III to IV Moved from Tier III to IV
T-28 95 35 60
Pz.Kpfw. II Luchs 40 15 25
Pz.Kpfw. III Ausf. J 90 30 55
StuG III Ausf. B 175 65 110
M5 Stuart 50 20 30
M8A1 175 65 110
M7 Moved from Tier V to IV Moved from Tier V to IV
AMX 40 175 65 110
Somua SAu 40 350 165 255
B1 70 25 45
Valentine AT Moved from Tier III to IV Moved from Tier III to IV
Matilda 110 70 110
Type 1 Chi-He 100 35 60
Sav m/43 370 130 230
Lago 175 65 110
Tier V
Tank Live Server Sandbox #1 Sandbox #2
Stug IV 175 65 110
KV-1 280 100 175
SU-122A 600 665 665
T-34 95 35 60
SU-85 300 105 190
VK 16.02 Leopard 90 30 55
Pz.Kpfw. IV Ausf. H 410 145 255
StuG Ausf. G 175 65 110
VK 30.01 (H) 175 65 110
M24 Chaffee 175 70 110
T1 Heavy Tank 185 65 115
M41 HMC 550 610 610
M4A1 Sherman 185 65 115
M10 Wolverine 185 65 115
AMX ELC bis 320 115 200
S35 CA 320 115 200
BDR G1 B 320 115 200
AMX 13 105 AM mle. 50 445 495 495
Sherman III 185 65 115
AT 2 100 35 60
Churchill I 175 65 110
Type 3 Chi-Nu 175 65 110
Ikv 103 370 130 230
Strv m/42 185 65 115
Tier VI
Tank Live Server Sandbox #1 Sandbox #2
Excalibur 190 70 90
MT-25 165 60 105
T-150 360 130 225
SU-8 600 665 665
T-34-85 300 105 190
SU-100 530 190 330
KV-2 910 330 580
KV-1S Moved from Tier V to VI Moved from Tier V to VI
VK 28.01 175 65 110
VK 30.02 (M) 175 65 110
Jagdpanzer IV 270 95 170
VK 30.01 (P) 270 95 170
VK 36.01 (H) 270 95 170
T37 185 65 115
M6 320 115 200
M44 550 610 610
M4A3E8 Sherman 185 65 115
M36 Jackson 320 115 200
AMX 12 t 175 65 110
ARL 44 320 115 200
AMX 13 F3 AM 700 775 775
Panhard AMD 178B 175 65 110
ARL V39 320 115 200
Cromwell 175 65 110
AT 8 190 70 120
Achilles 190 70 120
Churchill VII 190 70 120
O-I 890 320 555
Type 4 Chi-To 175 65 110
Ikv 65 Alt II 320 115 200
Strv 74 185 65 115
Tier VII
Tank Live Server Sandbox #1 Sandbox #2
T28 Concept 420 150 265
S-51 1050/1050 1165/1050 1165/1050
SU-152 530 190 330
IS 530 190 330
?V-3 530 190 330
T-43 300 105 190
LTG 300 105 190
Jagdpanther 420 150 265
Tiger (P) 295 105 185
Tiger I 295 105 185
Panther 175 65 110
Spähpanzer SP I C 270 95 170
M12 700/700 775/700 775/700
T25 AT 320 150 265
T29 420 150 265
T20 320 115 200
T71 CMCD 185 65 115
Lorraine 155 mle. 50 700/700 775/700 775/700
AMX AC mle. 46 400 145 250
AMX M4 mle. 45 320 115 200
AMX 13 75 175 65 110
Hotchkiss EBR 260 95 165
Challenger 370 130 230
AT 7 280 100 175
Black Prince 190 70 120
Comet 190 70 120
O-Ni 890 320 555
Type 5 Chi-Ri 175 65 110
Ikv 90 Typ B 320 115 200
Leo 410 145 255
Tier VIII
Tank Live Server Sandbox #1 Sandbox #2
Chimera 530 190 330
SU-14-2 1050/1050 1165/1050 1165/1050
ISU-152 950 330 580
IS-3 530 190 330
IS-M 530 190 330
KV-4 420 150 265
T-44 330 120 205
LTTB 300 105 190
Ferdinand 630 225 395
VK 100.01 (P) 630 225 395
Tiger II 420 150 265
Panther II 295 105 185
HWK 12 320 115 200
M40/M43 1050/1050 1165/1050 1165/1050
T28 515 185 320
T32 420 150 265
M26 Pershing 320 115 200
M41 Walker Bulldog 260 95 165
Lorraine 155 mle. 51 750/750 835/750 835/750
AMX AC mle. 48 515 185 320
AMX 65 t 515 185 320
Bat.-Châtillon 12 t 260 95 165
Panhard AML Lynx 6×6 320 115 200
Charioteer 480/480 170 300
AT 15 280 100 175
Caernarvon 370 130 230
Centurion Mk. I 280 100 175
O-Ho 890 320 555
STA-1 320 115 200
UDES 03 480 170 300
Emil I 460 165 290
UDES 14 Alt 5 460 165 290
Tier IX
Tank Live Server Sandbox #1 Sandbox #2
T 55A 420 150 265
212? 1050/1050 1165/1050 1165/1050
Object 704 950 330 580
Object 257 530 190 330
Object 705 640 230 400
ST-I 530 190 330
T-54 420 150 265
T-54 lightweight 330 120 205
Jagdtiger 700 250 440
Mäuschen 630 225 395
E 75 630 225 395
E 50 510 180 320
Spähpanzer Ru 251 320 115 200
M53/M55 1050/1050 1165/1050 1165/1050
T95 950 345 600
M103 515 185 320
M46 Patton 480 170 300
T49 910/910 330/365 580/635
Bat.-Châtillon 155 55 750/750 835/750 835/750
AMX 50 Foch 515 185 320
AMX M4 mle. 51 610 220 380
Bat.-Châtillon 25 t AP 400 145 250
AMX 13 90 320 115 200
Panhard EBR 90 320 115 200
Conway 770/770 275 480
Tortoise 515 185 320
Conqueror 515 185 320
Centurion Mk. 7/1 480 170 300
Type 4 Heavy 900/900 330/365 580/640
Type 61 440 170 300
Strv 103-0 480 170 300
Emil II 530 190 330
UDES 16 480 170 300
Tier X
Tank Live Server Sandbox #1 Sandbox #2
Object 260 530 190 330
Object 279e 530 190 330
Object 261 900/900 1000/900 1000/900
Object 268 1100 330 580
IS-7 640 230 400
Object 705? 840 330 580
IS-4 530 190 330
Object 140 420 150 265
T-100 LT 360 130 225
Jagdpanzer E 100 1400 415 725
Maus 630 225 395
E 100 950 320 565
E 50 Ausf. M 510 180 320
Rheinmetall Paznerwagen 420 150 265
T92 HMC 1300/1300 1440/1300 1440/1300
T110E3 1100 345 600
T110E5 515 185 320
M48A5 Patton 480 170 300
XM551 Sheridan 910/910 330/365 580/635
Bat.-Châtillon 155 58 750/750 835/750 835/750
AMX 50 Foch B 515 185 320
AMX M4 mle 54 640 230 400
Bat.-Châtillon 25 t 480 170 300
AMX 13 105 480 170 300
Panhard EBR 105 500 180 315
FV4005 Stage II 1750/1750 480 835
FV217 Badger 620 220 390
Super Conqueror 515 185 320
Centurion Action X 480 170 300
Type 5 Heavy 900/900 330/365 580/640
STB-1 440 170 300
Strv 103B 480 170 300
Kranvagn 530 190 330
UDES 15/16 530 190 330

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4 comments

  1. THIS IS CRAZY . STOP LETTING SMALL CALIBER GUNS DO MORE HE DAMAGE. This will lead to more HE spammed from every tank in the game. LEAVE HE AND HESH ALONE FFS. SO MUCH BIGGER ISSUES WITH THE GAME AND THIS IS WHAT THERE SPENDING THERE TIME ON.

    1. Not sure what you’re looking at, but this is still a ~40% nerf to all HE compared to the live server. So there will be less HE spam outside of howitzer equipped vehicles, which rely on them to do any damage at all, and those tanks will become less effective. This still somewhat ruins vehicles like the KV-2, SU-152, and M4A1 (105mm), and IMO they were’t that toxic to begin with, as they rarely got a full pen from their shots, and were balanced based on pen, not alpha.

  2. I just realized some vehicule changed tier ?!? Will this go live too ?
    I loved the M7 at tier 5. I don’t play it anymore, but I wonder what will it look like on tier 4…
    I don’t have the time to try it in the sandbox, did someone tried it ?
    Thanks !

  3. I really hope they dont screw up module damaging, would be sooo annoying to get your modules constantly damaged from he spammers. There is arty for that

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