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Supertest: German Tier X Destroyer Elbing

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At the top of the new German Destroyer/Spähkreuzer sub-branch, here is the Elbing.

The Elbing is based on the never-built Spähkreuzer 1940 from the Kriegsmarine. This design was the final one proposed for the Spähkreuzer concept and was the biggest of all with a standard displacement of 6 500 tons. Compared to the previous Spähkreuzer 1939, it was one knot faster, able to reach a top speed of 36 knots thanks to stronger engines and was also more heavily armed as it was equipped with two quintuple torpedo launchers while the Spähkreuzer 1939 had none.

In February 1941, the first 3 ships of this design SP1, SP2 and SP3 were ordered and the construction of the SP1 was even started. However, in 1942, the construction was stopped as the resources were reallocated to the production of U-boats.

In World of Warships, we are getting the Spähkreuzer 1940 as it would have been completed but just like on the previous ship, the twin dual-purpose 88 mm mounts are replaced by twin 55 mm AA mounts. Interestingly, Wargaming decided to take the standard displacement for the ship instead of the full-load displacement (around 7500 tons) like they usually do for tier X ships. It is somewhat understandable as such displacement, with the destroyer HP formula, would have brought her HP pool to roughly 37 100 HP.

Currently, the concept of the alternative branch of German destroyers implies the following features:

  • Accurate 150 mm guns
  • Powerful AP shells with good damage, penetration capability, and improved ricochet angles. HE shells, on the contrary, deal moderate damage per minute.
  • Availability of the Hydroaccoustic Search and, starting from Tier VIII, the Defensive AA Fire consumable. However, the new destroyers do not have a Smoke Generator.
  • Great armor for the class.
  • Torpedoes with good reload time and decent speed, but average damage and range.

 

For the classic reminder, this is a ship in testing, anything can change so don’t look at her like she would already be released.

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Modules
Hull
Engine
Gun Fire Control System
Main battery
Torpedoes

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Elbing

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Propulsion: 110 000 hp

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FKS Typ 10 Mod. 1

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150 mm/60 SK C/25 on a Tbts KC 42T mount

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G7 Steinbutt

General Characteristics

Tier X
Health 30 900 HP
Torpedo Damage Reduction 0 %
Displacement 6 508 tons
Main Armament
Maximum Firing Range 12.350 km
150 mm/60 SK C/25 on a Tbts KC 42T mount 3 x 2 150 mm
Torpedo Armament
Maximum Firing Range 8.000 km
533 mm Fünfling
2 x 5 533 mm
Maximum speed 36.2 knots
Turning Circle Radius 890 m
Rudder Shift Time 6.3 s
Surface Detectability 8.46 km
Air Detectability 5.13 km
Detectability After Firing Main Guns in Smoke 3.62 km

Main Battery

 

3 x 2 150 mm/60 SK C/25 on a Tbts KC 42T mount
 Maximum Firing Range 12.350 km
 Reloading Time 7.5 s
180 Degree Turn Time 22.5 s
Optimal firing angles at the front 33°
Optimal firing angles at the rear 34°
Sigma 2.00 sigma
Maximum Dispersion 58 m
Shells
Type of Projectile  HE – 150 mm Spr.Gr. L/4.4 Kz. Ausf. B
Alpha Damage 1 700 HP
Damage 670 HP
Penetration capacity  38 mm
Explosion size 0.54
Fire chance 8 %
Projectile Speed 960 m/s
Air Drag 0.237
Projectile Mass 51 kg
Type of Projectile AP – 150 mm P.Spr.Gr. L/3.7 Ausf. B
Alpha Damage 4 100 HP
Projectile Speed 960 m/s
Air drag 0.237
Projectile Mass 51
Projectile Krupp 2 950
Projectile Detonator 0.025s
Detonator Threshold 25 mm
Ricochet Angles 60° – 67.5°

Torpedo Armament

 

2 x 5 533 mm Fünfling
G7 Steinbutt
Reloading Time 85 s
Maximum Distance 8.000 km
Optimal firing angles at the front 50°
Optimal firing angles at the rear 56°
Damage 13 700
Flooding Chance 227 %
Speed 65 kt
Surface Detectability 1.3 km

Anti-air Armament

 

3 x 2 150 mm/60 SK C/25 on a Tbts KC 42T mount
Sector range 0.1 km – 6.9 km
Hit chance 100 %
Sector’s damage 13
Sector’s damage frequency 0.29 s
Sector’s damage per second 46
Flak clouds number 2
Flak cloud damage 1 750
2 x 2 55 mm/77 Gerät 58 on a twin mount
Sector range 0.1 km – 4.0 km
Hit chance 100 %
Sector’s damage 25
Sector’s damage frequency 0.29 s
Sector’s damage per second 88
10 x 4 30 mm/45 Flak 103/38 on a quadruple mount
Sector range 0.1 km – 3.0 km
Hit chance 95 %
Sector’s damage 87
Sector’s damage frequency 0.29 s
Sector’s damage per second 305

Consumables

Slot 1
Slot 2
Slot 3
Damage Control Party
consumable_PCY009_CrashCrewPremiumWork time: 5 s
Cooldown: 40 s
Hydroacoustic Search
consumable_PCY016_SonarSearchPremiumNumber of charges: 3
Work time: 100 s
Cooldown: 120 s
Torpedo spotting range: 4.0 km
Ship spotting range: 6.0 km
Defensive AA Fire
Number of charges: 3
Work time: 40 s
Cooldown: 80 s
Continuous Damage: +50%
Damage from shell explosions: +300%

The Armor

We are getting a last improvement compared to the previous ships in the new sub-branch. The whole middle section is now protected by 25 mm plating. This will help against most destroyers’ HE shells as well as against the AP shells of supercruisers as they will not be able to overmatch it.

Personal Opinion

Well… A good thing is that now the entire middle section is protected by 25 mm.

The AP was also greatly improved compared to the one of the Schultz and now, you pretty much have the same AP as the Hindenburg in terms of penetration and ballistic.

Penetration and impact angle for the AP shells of the Hindenburg and the Elbing over the range
Flight time and shell velocity for the AP shells of the Hindenburg and the Elbing over the range

Outside of that, the ship is much bigger but is also slower than the Schultz, being close to the Smolensk in terms of length. The sad part is that, while it’s almost as big as Smolensk, it turns nowhere near as well as her. In fact, the Elbing obliterates the previous turning radius record for destroyers (Harugumo with 830 m) with her gigantic 890 m turning radius. Just for the sake of comparison, the Yamato has 900 m…

I just cannot imagine seeing that ship dealing with cruisers or French destroyers and Japanese gunboats. With that size, speed and agility, she will just get obliterated.

When it comes to the anti-air, the long-range is still absolutely terrible but at least now at 3.0 km, the DPS is quite good.

In the end, that whole German DD line just looks horribly uninteresting right now but who knows, we might have some surprises when testing them. One thing for sure, the dispersion on them will be absolutely crazy.

Thanks to WoWsBallistic managed by 901234, I made a simulation of her total dispersion area over the range (so horizontal and vertical dispersion combined) and here is how it looks:

Dispersion area (horizontal and vertical dispersion combined) in m² of the Kléber and the Elbing over the range

Just so that it doesn’t get too confusing, only look at the “Max” value.

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3 thoughts on “Supertest: German Tier X Destroyer Elbing

  1. what’s the point of 25 mm armor strip? just good to arm cruiser ap and even most dds he can do damage there

    1. 25mm armor means that other DDs have to use AP. Their HE will shatter on 25mm. Well except for the Japanese 100mm which absurdly have the same 30mm pen as 152mm guns.

      Won’t stop these German giant DDs from being trash though. They’ve got nothing going for them when trying to fight other DDs. Their DPM is bad and their big HP pools are just good for everybody else to damage-farm them.

  2. This whole new DD line looks so uninteresting. Same for the last lines WG added: big floating islands farmed by everything (new USA BBs), upcoming shotgun short range and bad dispersion italian BBs. Why add another close quarters BB line to be farmed, after nerfing another line (secondary build german BBs) that normally also played close the objectives, logic….. I’m looking forward to an italian DD line similar to the Paolo Emilio though. Hope we’ll see that added to the game soon.

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