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Supertest: German Premium Tier VIII Battleship Odin

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The Odin is based on an early design of the Scharnhorst-class of battleships of the Kriegsmarine. It also features what would have been late war armament with 128 mm L/61 KM40 secondaries and 55 mm L/77 Gerät 58 Zwilling anti-air batteries.

In the early 1930s, France started to build the Dunkerque-class battleships to counter to Deutschland-class Panzerschiffe that Germany was building. In response, Germany started to build its first post-World War I capital ships, the Scharnhorst-class. These ships were not heavily armed with a main battery consisting of 3 triple turrets with 283 mm guns.  However, they were well protected, unlike the Dunkerque-class that had an armor closer from the one of a battlecruiser.

The armament wasn’t always planned to be 283 mm guns. There were discussions about using 305 mm, 330 mm or 350 mm guns. and even the configuration was for a bit of time also discussed between twin and triple turrets in various positions and numbers.

In the end, they decided to go with the upgraded version of the already in service 283 mm guns… at least for a time. Indeed, during construction, Hitler changed his mind again due to the most recent London Naval Treaty and asked for the ships to carry 380 mm guns. This would, however, be delayed since, at this point, there was no available turret or even gun. The Scharnhorst and Gneisenau were supposed to get them later on but with Hitler deciding that waiting 10 years for his navy to be somewhat ready for war was boring, World War II started and the ships never received their new guns.

When it comes to the name, I know that some people got triggered by it. I poked WG about it and it turns out that Nazi Germany really wanted ships named after the Nordic mythology to reflect the ideology of the Nazi party.

This also gave us one of the coolest easter egg of the game. Inside the bridge, there is the throne and spear of Odin as well as the 2 crows Huginn and Muninn.

Capture

 

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Modules
Hull
Engine
Gun Fire Control System
Main battery
Torpedoes

Odin

Propulsion: 137 300 hp

FKS Typ 8 Mod. 1

305 mm L/56 SK C/39

G7a T1

Characteristics
GeneralMain BatterySecondariesTorpedo TubesAir DefenseConsumables
TierVIII
Health62 700 HP
Displacement35 850 tons
Main Armament
Maximum Firing Range19.090 km
305 mm L/56 SK C/393 x 3 305 mm
Secondary Armament
Maximum Firing Range7.500 km
150 mm L/60 SK C/25
128 mm L/61 KM40
2 x 3 150 mm
6 x 2 128 mm
Torpedo Armament
Maximum Firing Range6.000 km
533 mm Vierling2 x 4 533 mm
Maximum speed30 kt
Turning Circle Radius790 m
Rudder Shift Time14.1 s
Surface Detectability15.3 km
Air Detectability9.86 km
Detectability After Firing Main Gus in Smoke11.9 km

3 x 3 305 mm L/56 SK C/39
 Reloading Time20 s
180 Degree Turn Time30.0 s
Optimal firing angles at the front32°
Optimal firing angles at the rear32°
Sigma2.00 sigma
Maximum Dispersion253 m
Shells
Type of Projectile HE – 305 mm P.Spr.Gr. L/4.9
Alpha Damage3 600 HP
Damage2 9600 HP
Penetration capacity 75 mm
Explosion size1.65
Fire chance27 %
Projectile Speed865 m/s
Air Drag0.28
Projectile Mass415
Type of ProjectileAP – 305 mm Spr.Gr. L/3.8
Alpha Damage9 400 HP
Chance to Cause Fire-0.5 %
Projectile Speed865 m/s
Air Drag0.28
Projectile Mass415
Projectile Krupp2 450
Projectile Detonator0.01 s
Detonator threshold51 mm

2 x 3 150 mm L/60 SK C/25
Reloading Time7.5 s
Sigma1.00 sigma
Shells
Type of ProjectileHE – 150 mm Spr.Gr. L/4.4 Kz.
Alpha Damage1 700 HP
Damage670 HP
HE penetration38 mm
Explosion Size0.54
Chance to Cause Fire7 %
Projectile Speed960 m/s
Air Drag0.331
Projectile Mass45.5
6 x 2 128 mm L/61 KM40
Reloading Time3.6 s
Sigma1.00 sigma
Shells
Type of ProjectileHE – 128 mm Spr.Gr. Kz.
Alpha Damage1 500 HP
Damage430 HP
HE penetration31 mm
Explosion Size0.41
Chance to Cause Fire5 %
Projectile Speed900 m/s
Air Drag0.313
Projectile Mass26
2 x 4 533 mm Vierling
G7a T1
Reloading Time90 s
Maximum Distance6.0 km
Optimal firing angles at the front39°
Optimal firing angles at the rear22°
Damage13 700
Speed64 kt
Surface Detectability1.3 km

6 x 2 128 mm L/61 KM40
Sector range0.1 km – 6.0 km
Hit chance75 %
Sector’s damage21
Sector’s damage frequency0.29 s
Sector’s damage per second74
Flak clouds number5
Flak cloud damage1 470
8 x 2 55 mm L/77 Gerät 58 Zwilling
Sector range0.1 km – 4.0 km
Hit chance75 %
Sector’s damage96
Sector’s damage frequency0.29 s
Sector’s damage per second336
4 x 2 20 mm Flakzwilling 38
6 x 4 20 mm Flakvierling 38
Sector range0.1 km – 2.0 km
Hit chance70 %
Sector’s damage31
Sector’s damage frequency0.29 s
Sector’s damage per second109
Slot 1
Slot 2
Slot 3
Slot 4
Damage Control Party I
Work time: 15 s
Cooldown: 120 s
Repair Party I
Number of charges: 3
Work time: 28 s
Cooldown: 120 s
HP regeneration speed: 0.5 % HP/s
Spotting Aircraft I
Number of charges: 3
Work time: 100 s
Cooldown: 360 s
Bonus: +20% maximum firing range
Hydroacoustic Search I
Number of charges: 2
Work time: 100 s
Cooldown: 180 s
Torpedo detection range: 3.5 km
Ship detection range: 5.0 km
Damage Control Party II
Work time: 15 s
Cooldown: 80 s
Repair Party II
Number of charges: 4
Work time: 28 s
Cooldown: 80 s
HP regeneration speed: 0.5 % HP/s
Hydroacoustic Search II
Number of charges: 4
Work time: 100 s
Cooldown: 240 s
Bonus: +20% maximum firing range
Hydroacoustic Search II
Number of charges: 3
Work time: 100 s
Cooldown: 120 s
Torpedo detection range: 3.5 km
Ship detection range: 5.0 km
Fighter I
Number of charges: 2
Work time: 60 s
Cooldown: 135 s
Patrol radius: 3.0 km
Squadron size: 3
Fighter II
Number of charges: 3
Work time: 60 s
Cooldown: 90 s
Patrol radius: 3.0 km
Squadron size: 3

The armor

general

The Odin presents a very good armor scheme that will allow her to tank effectively. It is very close to the one of Scharnhorst but adds some extra.

The bow section

bow1

The bow of the Odin is protected by the classic 32 mm plating but she also has an extended belt of 60 mm that goes all the way to the end of the bow.

bow2

Here is the first improvement that Odin has over Scharnhorst. Inside her bow, there is a 60 mm thick armored deck that perfectly protects her citadel from possible shells that would be able to penetrate the bow.

bow3

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bow5

For the frontal protection of the middle section, there is first a 45 mm thick casemate and then a 200 mm thick one. Under the armored deck, there is the citadel athwartship with the upper part being 200 mm thick and the lower part 19 mm thick. You might think that this is bad but since there is a lot of protection above it and also considering the fact that it’s deep underwater, there is no chance for a shell to reach it.

The middle section

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The deck is 50 mm thick which is the classic for German BBs. For the upper belt, it is 45 mm thick which is still decent protection against HE shells and will be useful to bounce AP shells.

For the main belt, it is 320 mm thick and the lower part is 245 mm thick. Just behind this main belt, there is the classic German turtleback.

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The turtleback under the turrets is 120 mm thick with a slope varying from 43° to 63°. Around the engines, it is 105 mm thick and the slope varies from 62° to 65°.

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All of this protects the 45 mm thick sides of the citadel.

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For the horizontal protection… well the Germans were never good at this and the Odin isn’t an exception. Above the engines, the citadel deck is 80 mm thick and under the turrets, it’s 90 mm thick. AP bombs will have no issue to penetrate that.

The stern section

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The stern has the classic 32 mm armor except for the massive 90 mm thick extended belt that covers the sides and that reaches the end of the stern.

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Inside the stern, there is an armored deck that covers the citadel completely. It is 60 mm thick except around the steering gears where it is 150 mm thick.

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For the rear protection of the middle section, the casemate above the armored deck is first 45 mm thick and then 150 mm thick. For the citadel athwartship and the casemate around it, it is 150 mm thick for the upper part and then 19 mm thick for the lower part.

Just like at the front, the 19 mm plating doesn’t matter because there is basically no chance to reach that part.

The superstructure

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The superstructure is much more compact than on the Scharnhorst which is quite welcomed.

It is 16 mm thick except for the 350 mm thick conning tower and the 150 mm barbettes of the secondary turrets.

The turrets

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The protection of the turrets on Odin is a bit underwhelming. Then again, it’s the case for pretty much all German battleships.

The face is 360 mm thick with a small 18° slope, the sides and the back are 220 mm thick and for the roof, it’s 150 mm thick except for the central part that is 130 mm thick.

For the barbette, the top is 150 mm thick, the upper part is 350 mm thick and the lower part is 300 mm thick.

Personal opinion

A Scharnhorst but with better armor, stronger guns, better secondaries, better anti-air, better concealment and Hydroacoustic Search. Where do I sign? Seriously, this ship definitely sounds promising but I will try to not get my hopes too high just in case.

Ah and also she has a short fuse AP just like Scharnhorst to punish cruisers hard.

 

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15,466 thoughts on “Supertest: German Premium Tier VIII Battleship Odin

  1. While 305mm guns does mentioned in many Scharnhorst pre-designs, i expect a similar C/34 model like 11.1″/54, the later C/39 were requested by Raeder to arm his feature “pocket-battleships”, otherwise she would have no guns once laid down, so Odin is more WG bit of depiction of her re-armaments.

  2. Wow, Hydro + torps? Finally we have a good German premium ship. Plz WG don’t screw this up.

  3. Do not believe every junk the WG tells you. If the Germans really wanted ships with names from Norse mythology, then Bismarck and Tirpitz would be called different. Even Hitler had other ideas as German battleships should be called.

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