Historical World of Tanks

German Tanks from Secret Cellars

German secret tank projects are one of the most compelling themes for historical disputes, the juggling of facts and outright falsifications on the Internet. Some of these were created as a joke, some out of ignorance, but others were imagined with an intention. From all these tanks out there, how can you know if one is fake or real? Let’s have a look at some of the most popular tanks out on the Internet.

Waffenträger auf E 100

Waffenträger auf E 100

One of the most controversial tanks ever introduced to World of Tanks, the Waffenträger auf E 100 was introduced as a Tier X vehicle for the German tech tree and it’s one hundred per-cent development of the Wargaming Design Bureau. Initially, it was supposed to have a pair of 128mm anti-aircraft guns, but later, due to the lack of multi-gun mechanism in the game, the self-propelled gun received just one 128 mm gun with an autoloading mechanism. It was later replaced by a much more plausible project found in the archives, Grille 15.

Conclusion: Complete fabrication.

GW Tiger (P)

GW Tiger (P)

This is the second self-propelled vehicle after the Waffenträger auf E 100, fully developed by Wargaming Design Bureau and had no historical basis too. It first appeared after the expansion of the German self-propelled gun branch up to Tier X. Conceptually, the GW Tiger (P) is a logical predecessor to the GW Tiger, also known as the Grille 17/21. Unlike the Waffenträger auf E 100, this vehicle fits perfectly into its branch and there are no plans to remove this SPG from the game or replace it. In addition, there isn’t a single real-life project that could replace this vehicle in the game.

Conclusion: Complete fabrication.

E 50 Ausf. M

E 50 Ausf. M

Wargaming Design Bureau was busy developing fake tanks to introduce in World of Tanks, and E 50 Ausf. M was another one of these vehicles, which was patented. However, it isn’t a complete fabrication. The E 50 Ausf. M is a conceptual vision of how further development of the E 50 might have looked. the hull and parts of the turret are developed from ideas from the original E-50 project. According to documents, a rear transmission was planned. After the war, the idea was further developed by the French, who used German designs to create their how medium tank AMX M4.

Conclusion: Fabrication based on real documents.

Jagdpanzer E -100

Jagdpanzer E -100

Unlike the Waffenträger auf E 100, this vehicle wasn’t invented by World of Tanks developers. This self-propelled vehicle was created as a super-heavy tank destroyer, from the preserved blueprint No. BZ 3364 and fragmented archive information, which formed the basis for the Jagdpanzer E-100. Despite the fact that the full-fledged drawings of this self-propelled vehicle have not been preserved, its reconstruction closely corresponds to the Krupp design in the summer of 1944.

Conclusion: Design based on real documents.

Jagdpanther II

Jagdpanther II

Some particularly devoted experts attributed the creation of this vehicle to Wargaming Design Bureau, but in fact, this isn’t correct. The creators of the Jagdpanther II were, in fact, Krupp engineers who in November 1944 were working on a project called Panzerjäger Panther mit 12.8 cm L/55 (Pak 80). This project was meant for the creating of a tank destroyer with a rear fighting compartment based on the Pz. Kpfw. Panther chassis. This arrangement made it possible to install a much more powerful gun, namely, the 12.8 cm L/55, which was also used in the Jagdtiger tank destroyer. Since the required chassis rework wasn’t specifically mentioned in the documents, the Panther II suspension was used to create the World of Tanks model.

Conclusion: Design based on real documents.

VK 72.01 (K)

The VK 72.01 (K) is another vehicle whose creating is attributed to Wargaming Design Bureau, more precisely Yuri Pasholok. While the known Russian tank historian is honoured, it was Krupp engineers who created this spectacular vehicle. The VK 72.01 project appeared at the beginning of 1942, the initial combat requirements for this vehicle limited the weight to 72 tons. But very quickly the mass increased to 90 tons, the same weight of the VK 70.01 project at the very end of 1941. The vehicle was to be a new super-heavy tank and it was to be equipped with either a 105 mm or a 149 mm calibre gun. In the spring of 1942, Krupp engineers began to work on a variant of the VK 72.01 with a turret located in the rear. The project changed for several months and so many times that is very bold to declare the World of Tanks implementation never existed.

Conclusion: Design based on real documents.

E-90 (Pz.Kpfw.Tiger III S)

E-90 (Pz.Kpfw.Tiger III S)

The product of the rich imagination of Internet “historians”, which appeared in the late 2000s. According to the creators, the Pz. Kpfw. E-90 also know as Tiger III S, is a lightweight variant of the E-100. But the whole idea stumbles on one logical problem: then E-75 was the Tiger II replacement, and the heavier E-100 was planned to be unified with the Tiger II in a number of components. Why would the Germans have yet another heavy tank, ordinary human logic can not explain, nevertheless, the creation of inquisitive minds managed to break from the Internet and into some printed media.

Conclusion: Complete fabrication.

E-79 Schwarzwolf VK 66.01 (H)

E-79 Schwarzwolf VK 66.01 (H)

In December 1999, game developer ASCII Corporation released a game called Panzer Front on Sony PlayStation and Dreamcast. The game had real tanks but also fake ones, created for the game, including the E-79. Often, World of Tanks developers are plagued with questions to when or if the E-79 will be introduced to the game, but while the idea is interesting, there are already enough fake vehicles in the game, especially in the German tech tree. This is yet another prime example of how someone creates a fake design together with a fake history, and the Internet believes it’s real.

Conclusion: Complete fabrication.

E -100 Henschelturm / Adlerturm

E -100 Henschelturm / Adlerturm

Developed in the design office of a Chinese company who creates plastic models, the E -100 Henschelturm / Adlerturm became a popular fake German tank on the Internet. According to them, Henschel developed an alternative turret and Adlerwerk also developed a turret for the E-100 super heavy tank. The reality is these “engineers” are useless experts on German armoured vehicle history. Henschel never developed turrets for tanks, that was Krupp job, and of course, Adler had nothing to do with the development of the turrets, has they were working on the E-100 suspension. In short, the E-100 Henschelturm and E-100 Adlerturm are products of the rich imagination of people who have no knowledge of German tank design.

Conclusion: Complete fabrication.

Sturmgeschütz 40 T -34

Sturmgeschütz 40 T -34

Fake vehicles aren’t just created on the Internet, in fact, some were created by skilled individuals who knew how to photoshop. A strange vehicle (picture top vehicle) appeared several decades ago on the pages of magazines and books devoted to the StuG III self-propelled gun. Allegedly, the Germans installed a casemate of a StuG 40 Ausf. F/8 on a captured T-34 chassis and especially dedicated editors even produced a colour scheme for this unique vehicle. The fact is, this is nothing more than a clever photoshop who fooled everyone. The vehicle is in fact just a T-34/76 and the original photo can be seen on the bottom area of the above picture.

Conclusion: Complete fabrication.

Flakpanzer T-34

Flakpanzer T-34

According to unconfirmed information, in April 1945, Kampfgruppe Kienast used a captured T-34 and converted it to fit a 88 mm Flak 18 anti-aircraft gun. A photograph of the vehicle was published and cited as evidence of the alleged conversion. The vehicle often appears on German tank articles who used the loosely available information as a source to claim the vehicle is real, but the fact is a quick and simple search quickly proves the vehicle is nothing more than the product of a photoshop. The original photo used for the creation of the fake one, is, in fact, a captured T-34/85. The Germans did build a vehicle with a 88 mm Flak 18 anti-aircraft gun, but it was on a Pz. Kpfw. IV chassis. The vehicle was found by the Americans at one of the German vehicle junkyards in the Czech Republic.

Conclusion: Complete fabrication.

Jagdpanzer E -50

Jagdpanzer E -50

The author of this extraordinary design is the French artist Hubert Cance. This, according to the author, it was supposed to be a tank destroyer based on the E-50. However, no self-propelled vehicles were developed on the basis of the E-50, and even the E-50 itself didn’t advance from the concept stage. Note that Hubert Cance placed all crew members in the casemate, in fact, he did the same on his drawings for the Jagdpanther II. In the original factory blueprint of the Panzerjäger Panther mit 12.8 cm L / 55 (Pak 80), the driver and gunner-radio operator seats are clearly in the hull. The place Hubert Cance placed them, is in fact occupied by the cooling system.

Conclusion: Complete fabrication.

15 cm Sturmgeschütz E -75

15 cm Sturmgeschütz E -75

Another creation of French artist Hubert Cance, published in the Truck & Tranks magazine. The vehicle is based on rumours of a self-propelled gun developed on the chassis of an E-75 heavy tan, equipped with a 149 L/52 gun. Information about this SPG is available in some literature, but in fact, it is a mistake. The installation of such a gun took place, at least on paper, but for the VK 70.01 in early 1942 and the documents talk about a tank, not a self-propelled gun. As for this reconstructions, its realism raises enormous doubts, as the front road wheels load would simply be monstrous.

Conclusion: Complete fabrication.

Sturmgeschütz Maus

Sturmgeschütz Maus

The Sturmgeschütz Maus project has a real basis, but this design is yet another creation of French artist Hubert Cance, who has failed us again. It’s completely unclear where the engine, generator or any other components go in this design. A rear fighting compartment would be much more logical for such a project.

Conclusion: Complete fabrication.

Kampfwagenvernichter Ausf . F (E -100) Krokodil

Kampfwagenvernichter Ausf . F (E -100) Krokodil

Another creation by Hubert Cance, published in 2007 in the Batailles & Blindes magazine. The concept of a tank destroyer on an E-100 chassis was taken as the basis, and the artist created a vehicle who resembled a Jagdpanther tank destroyer. He clearly didn’t think about the load on the front road wheels, again, or on the suspension. Nevertheless, due to its resemblance to the Jagdpanther, the Crocodile gained popularity on the Internet and is often seen in articles claiming to be real.

Conclusion: Complete fabrication.

Kampfwagenvernichter E -90

Kampfwagenvernichter E -90

The development of the idea Kampfwagenvernichter Ausf. F (E-100) Krokodil, but this time by Internet “historians“. It presents the same flaws as the original Hubert Cance design, but these vehicles were based on the fictional E-90 heavy tank chassis. The design goes even further, as even the suspension has nothing in common with reality.

Conclusion: Complete fabrication.

Geschützwagen E-100

Geschützwagen E-100

Last but not least and worth the mention, it’s the Geschützwagen E-100 self-propelled gun. The vehicle didn’t come from Wargaming Design Bureau, but in fact, from a scale modeller who made it in the late 2000s. The model was very convincing and some believed it real because it’s in many ways, similar to the Grille 17/21 design. While this vehicle takes the top place in the German SPG branch in World of Tanks, the vehicle has no basis in reality.

Conclusion: Complete fabrication.

Source: Yuri Pasholok, Warspot.ru

18 comments

  1. Good read. Always important to identify if sth is real or fiction, especially when it comes to history.

    I am Jonathan Frakes.

  2. Man I know the JgPz E-100 Krokodil is fake, and completely unrealistic and that the front suspension would give out completely even if it did try to exist… but man I love the design.

  3. As long as in the game it’s fun I don’t mind playing, watching these tanks in action. WoT it’s a game.. an arcade game.. not a simulation, not a museum.. if you want realism.. you can go to a museum. I want and collect outrageous skins and camo styles and various tanks because I like them or I like how they look. Again.. players who complain about realism should go to a museum,

    1. So as long as you are having fun and your interests are fullfilled, you don’t care about the fun and interests of others. Gotcha.

      1. Not sure why DZ is criticizing you because OP’s message was a very self centered one. The moment where companies stop basing tanks on historically accurate vehicles is the moment you will lose your playerbase. Its one of the main reasons you started to see people leaving/quitting WoT 3 to 4 years ago when they started to add more completely bullshit fantasy tanks.

        Should just rename WoT to ToF aka Tanks of Fantasy.

    2. And even in museums you can find fake things, replicas or fake artifacts manufactured by someone who at some point wanted to earn some money or notoriety.

  4. What I like/liked about WoT is that most of the “lore” is our history (even “what if”s paper conceps) and articles like this are what we see more often – rly appreciated.

  5. Wasn’t the WT E100 at least somewhat based on allied assumption that E100 chassis (if it ever got operational) might have become a base for some kind of superheavy self propelled antiaircraft gun? It’s 128mm gun model was 12.8cm FlaK 40, and if the plan was to fit the tank with dual mounted 128mm guns (12.8cm Flakzwilling 40/2), that could support this even more.

    1. No, its literally a complete fabrication like most “internet historian” tanks and anyone who thinks its a real design probably should think about having kids.

  6. not bad, if you need a hand with the fake UK ones or others, lookign at you japan and china lemme know

  7. There are no German tanks anymore who can be put in the german tree. What should we do? Never ever adding a new german tree, or put in some tanks from other sources?

  8. probably get flank for this no pun intended but they should put as many in wot as they can. We need as much new stuff as we can get and the real stuff is running out. So I purpose they put stuff in fake lines like the Chinese tds and as long they are balanced and not claimed to be real would love to see a few of these in wot. 15 cm jtiger come on heck ya or a bigger jp e 100 and the wt e 100 make a balanced return, im not joking this is what I want.

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