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Supertest: Soviet Tier VIII Premium Cruiser Pyotr Bagration

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Next to the Ochakov, we are also getting a second Tier VIII Premium cruiser, the Pyotr Bagration.

The Pyotr Bagration is a bit of an oddball among the upcoming Russian cruisers. Firstly, it doesn’t have Surveillance Radar. Secondly, it sits between the light cruisers since she has the standard cruiser dispersion and the heavy cruisers for her strong AP, short AP fuse time and strong armor protection.

The ship is based on one of the variations of the Project 65 of cruisers from the Soviet Navy. This project was part of the 1946-1955 shipbuilding program. There were 2 main variants with the first being armed with 152 mm guns and the second with 180 mm guns.

In the end, this project was canceled in 1951 in favor of more ships of the Sverdlov-class (Project 68 bis).

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Modules
Hull
Engine
Gun Fire Control System
Main battery
Torpedoes

Pyotr Bagration

Propulsion: 132 000 hp

GFCS VIII mod. 1

180 mm/57 MK-3-180M

53-36 mod. 2

Characteristics
GeneralMain BatterySecondariesTorpedo TubesAir DefenseConsumables
TierVIII
Health42 000 HP
Displacement 17 101 tons
Main Armament
Maximum Firing Range17.980 km
180 mm/57 MK-3-180M3 x 3 180 mm
Secondary Armament
Maximum Firing Range5.000 km
100 mm/70 SM-5-1s8 x 2 100 mm
Torpedo Armament
Maximum Firing Range8.000 km
533 mm Quintuple PTA-53-68-bis2 x 5 533 mm
Maximum speed34.5 kts
Turning Circle Radius890 m
Rudder Shift Time10.5 s
Surface Detectability12.6 km
Air Detectability7.41 km
Detectability After Firing Main Guns in Smoke6.7 km

3 x 3 180 mm/57 MK-3-180M
 Maximum Firing Range17.980 km
 Reloading Time12.5 s
180 Degree Turn Time22.5 s
Optimal firing angles at the front35°
Optimal firing angles at the rear49°
Sigma2.00 sigma
Maximum Dispersion157 m
Shells
Type of Projectile HE – HE-32
Alpha Damage2 500 HP
Damage1 010 HP
Penetration capacity 30 mm
Explosion size0.73
Fire chance13 %
Projectile Speed920 m/s
Air Drag0.265
Projectile Mass109.2
Type of ProjectileAP – AP-35
Alpha Damage4 550 HP
Chance to Cause Fire-0.5 %
Projectile Speed930 m/s
Air Drag0.278
Projectile Mass109.2
Projectile Krupp2 370
Projectile Detonator0.022 s
Detonator threshold30 mm

8 x 2 100 mm/70 SM-5-1s
Maximum Firing Range5.000 km
Reloading Time4.0 s
Sigma1.00 sigma
Shells
Type of ProjectileHE – HE-55
Alpha Damage1 400 HP
Damage310 HP
HE penetration17 mm
Explosion Size0.29
Chance to Cause Fire6 %
Projectile Speed1 000 m/s
Air Drag0.295
Projectile Mass15.6
2 x 5 533 mm Quintuple PTA-53-68-bis
53-36 mod. 2
Reloading Time131 s
Maximum Distance8.0 km
Optimal firing angles at the front30°
Optimal firing angles at the rear41°
Damage14 400
Flooding Chance240 %
Speed55 kt
Surface Detectability1.1 km

8 x 2 100 mm/70 SM-5-1s
Sector range0.1 km – 5.8 km
Hit chance90 %
Sector’s damage54
Sector’s damage frequency0.29 s
Sector’s damage per second189
Flak clouds number6
Flak cloud damage1 330
8 x 2 45 mm CM-16
Sector range0.1 km – 3.5 km
Hit chance90 %
Sector’s damage45
Sector’s damage frequency0.29 s
Sector’s damage per second158
4 x 4 25 mm 4M-120
Sector range0.1 km – 3.5 km
Hit chance85 %
Sector’s damage20
Sector’s damage frequency0.29 s
Sector’s damage per second70
Slot 1
Slot 2
Damage Control Party I
Work time: 5 s
Cooldown: 90 s
Defensive AA Fire I
Number of charges: 2
Work time: 40 s
Cooldown: 120 s
Continuous DPS: +50%
DPS from flak clouds: +300%
Damage Control Party II
Work time: 5 s
Cooldown: 60 s
Defensive AA Fire II
Number of charges: 3
Work time: 40 s
Cooldown: 80 s
Continuous DPS: +50%
DPS from flak clouds: +300%
Hydroacoustic Search I
Number of charges: 2
Work time: 100 s
Cooldown: 180 s
Ship spotting distance: 5.0 km
Torpedo spotting distance: 3.5 km
Hydroacoustic Search II
Number of charges: 3
Work time: 100 s
Cooldown: 120 s
Ship spotting distance: 5.0 km
Torpedo spotting distance: 3.5 km

The armor

Capture

The Pyotr Bagration presents a very good armor scheme for a tier VIII light cruiser with a full spaced armor scheme and even an extended belt on the bow.

The bow section

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The bow is 25 mm thick just like most tier VIII cruisers but she gets an extra in the form of a 40 mm extended belt.

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For the upper casemate, it’s only 19 mm thick.

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The citadel’s athwartship is 180 mm thick for the upper part and 16 mm thick for the lower underwater part.

The middle section

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The deck of the Pyotr Bagration is 27 mm thick. However, since she is categorized as a light cruiser, her side armor is only 25 mm thick.

For the main belt, it’s 152 mm thick.

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When it comes to the citadel that is in space armor configuration, it is 40 mm thick. This will make her citadel quite trolly since it’s… basically the same scenario as the Henri IV.

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The ship presents a quite unusual plating. In fact, above the citadel side armor, there is a 30 mm plating that goes all the way up to the deck.
I actually wonder if that means that the upper side armor also counts as a spaced armor or not. If it’s the case, this ship has a SERIOUS armor advantage compared to other tier VIII cruisers.

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For the horizontal protection, the main armor deck is 75 mm thick soooo… well AP bombs just go through.

The stern section

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For the stern, it’s 25 mm thick except around the steering gears where there is a 100 mm external plating.

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For the upper casemate, it’s only 19 mm thick.

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When it comes to the citadel athwartship, the upper part is 180 mm thick and the lower part is 16 mm thick.

The superstructure

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The superstructure is 13 mm thick and is fairly high and large. Destroyers will have plenty to shoot at.

The turrets

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For a cruiser, the turret protection is quite good. The face is 175 mm thick with a 39° slope. The sides are 120 mm thick at the front and 100 mm thick at the rear. For the roof, the front is 120 mm thick and the rear is 80 mm thick.

Personal opinion

So far, I don’t really know what to think of this ship. The armor is great, the anti-air is good but except that… there isn’t much to look at in terms of utility since she doesn’t have a Surveillance Radar and will simply be a roaming cruiser with on top of that, not the best DPM.

Now… if Wargaming gives her Hydroacoustic Search and Defensive AA Fire in separated slot but also buff her reload, she might be an interesting ship.

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  1. ur torp range under general tab says 10km, but the torp tab shows 8km range. which one is correct?

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