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Supertest: Russian Tier III battleship Knyaz Suvorov

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Ladies and Gentlemen, it is time. I have access to the fully detailed statistics of the Russian battleships so let’s look at them in details.

Out of all the battleships forming the Russian battleships line, only one ship was ever constructed and completed. I will do my best to give you some background on these ships but do not expect anything big as the documentation for some designs is quite limited.

The Knyaz Suvorov is based on an early design of Dreadnought. This designed was called “Skvortsov Design 1907”. In the end, the design was not selected to go in production.

Modules
Hull
Engine
Gun Fire Control System
Main battery

K. Suvorov (A)

Propulsion: 27,000 hp

GFCS III mod. 1

305 mm/52 Model 1907

K. Suvorov (B)

GFCS III mod. 2

Please Note
I will cover both the stock configuration and the fully researched configuration for the tech tree ships.
Characteristics
GeneralMain BatterySecondariesConsumables
TierIII
Health35 600 HP
Main Armament
Maximum Firing Range13 300 km
305 mm/52 Model 19075 x 2 305 mm
Secondary Armament
Maximum Firing Range3.00 km
120 mm/50 Model 190514 x 1 120 mm
Maximum speed22 kt
Turning Circle Radius650 m
Rudder Shift Time13.60 s
Surface Detectability11.70 km
Air Detectability7.51 km
Detectability After Firing Main Gus in Smoke9.00 km
5×2 305 mm/52 Model 1907
180 Degree Turn Time56.2 s
Reloading Time32.0 s
Optimal fronfiring angle
48°
Optimal rear firing angle30°
Sigma1.70 sigma
Maximum Dispersion198 m
Shells
Type of ProjectileHE
Alpha Damage4 500 HP
Damage3 360 HP
Alpha Piercing HE51 mm
Explosion Size1.73
Chance to Cause Fire33 %
Projectile Speed762 m/s
Air Drag0.46
Projectile Mass470.9
Projectile Krupp1
Type of ProjectileAP
Alpha Damage8 600 HP
Chance to Cause Fire-0.5 %
Projectile Speed762 m/s
Air Drag0.46
Projectile Mass470.9
Projectile Krupp2 627
Projectile Detonator0.01 s
14 x 1 120 mm/50 Model 1905
Reloading Time8.57 s
Sigma1.00 sigma
Horizontal Dispersion50 m
Vertical Dispersion110 m
Shells
Type of ProjectileHE
Alpha Damage1 700 HP
Damage470 HP
Alpha Piercing HE20 mm
Explosion Size0.4
Chance to Cause Fire8 %
Projectile Speed823 m/s
Air Drag0.487
Projectile Mass20.48
Projectile Krupp1
Slot 1
Slot 2
Consumable charges: 3
Work time: 10 s
Cooldown: 60 s
Consumable charges: 2
Work time: 28 s
Cooldown: 120 s
HP regeneration speed: 0.005 % HP/s
Consumable charges: 4
Work time: 10 s
Cooldown: 40 s
Consumable charges: 3
Work time: 28 s
Cooldown: 80 s
HP regeneration speed: 0.005 % HP/s
GeneralMain BatterySecondariesAir DefenseConsumables
TierIII
Health37 900 HP
Main Armament
Maximum Firing Range14 630 km
305 mm/52 Model 19075 x 2 305 mm
Secondary Armament
Maximum Firing Range3.00 km
130 mm/55 Model 191314 x 1 130 mm
Maximum speed22 kt
Turning Circle Radius650 m
Rudder Shift Time9.70 s
Surface Detectability11.70 km
Air Detectability7.51 km
Detectability After Firing Main Gus in Smoke9.00 km
5×2 305 mm/52 Model 1907
180 Degree Turn Time56.2 s
Optimal fronfiring angle
48°
Optimal rear firing angle30°
Reloading Time32.0 s
Sigma1.70 sigma
Maximum Dispersion198 m
Shells
Type of ProjectileHE
Alpha Damage4 500 HP
Damage3 360 HP
Alpha Piercing HE51 mm
Explosion Size1.71
Chance to Cause Fire33 %
Projectile Speed762 m/s
Air Drag0.46
Projectile Mass470.9
Projectile Krupp1
Type of ProjectileAP
Alpha Damage8 600 HP
Chance to Cause Fire-0.5 %
Projectile Speed762 m/s
Air Drag0.46
Projectile Mass470.9
Projectile Krupp2 627
Projectile Detonator0.01 s
14 x 1  130 mm/55 Model 1913
Reloading Time7.5 s
Sigma1.00 sigma
Horizontal Dispersion50 m
Vertical Dispersion110 m
Shells
Type of ProjectileHE
Alpha Damage1 900 HP
Damage590 HP
Alpha Piercing HE22 mm
Explosion Size0.46
Chance to Cause Fire9 %
Projectile Speed823 m/s
Air Drag0.414
Projectile Mass36.86
Projectile Krupp1
8 x 1 75 mm Canet naval gun
Sector range1.0 km – 3.0 km
Hit chance62 %
Sector’s damage140
Sector’s damage frequency3.37 s
Sector’s damage per second42
Flak clouds number1
Flak cloud damage210
Sector reinforcement
Sector reinforcement bonus+25%
Sector reinforcement time12 s
Sector reinforcement shift time12 s
Slot 1
Slot 2
Consumable charges: 3
Work time: 10 s
Cooldown: 60 s
Consumable charges: 2
Work time: 28 s
Cooldown: 120 s
HP regeneration speed: 0.005 % HP/s
Consumable charges: 4
Work time: 10 s
Cooldown: 40 s
Consumable charges: 3
Work time: 28 s
Cooldown: 80 s
HP regeneration speed: 0.005 % HP/s

The armor analysis

This is a bit of an experiment here but I think that for battleships like these, simply giving a few values wouldn’t allow you to see the full picture. This is why I will fully cover the armor of these new ships in a dedicated section.

general.JPG

The bow section

Bow.JPG

The bow armor is simply mind-blowing.

The deck of the bow is 38 mm thick which means that you are protected from all cruiser’s HE at this tier even from the Karlsruhe with her 37 mm of penetration.

The upper belt is 102 mm thick and then the extended belt is 127 mm thick. You are reading these values correctly, don’t worry. The Knyaz Suvorov has no overmatchable armor on her bow. All the other battleships at this tier have parts of their bow that can be overmatched but this one can happily angle bow on and bounce all AP shells.

Inside the bow, there are also 2 armored decks. The upper one is 25 mm thick and the lower one is 38 mm thick. This basically means that you will have almost no chance to citadel this ship from the front.

front citadel1.png

Now let’s look at the protection of the middle section at the front. The lower part of the citadel’s athwartship (delimited in red) below the second armored deck is only 19 mm as well as the casemate above and on the sides.

For the rest of the frontal armor, the left picture represents the 38 mm plates with the middle part of the citadel delimited in red and on the picture on the right, the plates being 76 mm thick including the upper part of the citadel.

The citadel’s protection is really awkward. The lower part of the citadel is protected by a turtleback but then the upper part is protected by a spaced armor. Let’s look at it in detail.

The middle section

middle section.JPG

The main belt in red is 203 mm thick which is relatively thin for a battleship at this tier. The upper belt in orange is 102 mm thick and finally, the deck is 38 mm thick. Once again, absolutely no area to penetrate with HE unless it’s from a battleship. Cruisers, in general, will simply cry when they will shoot this ship.

middle section1.JPG

For the citadel deck, it is 25 mm thick. so you shouldn’t be taking citadel from that part as it can bounce the 305 mm AP shells from the battleships you will face in general. As for cruisers, I highly doubt that they will have enough punch to reach that deck with plunging fire.
Now, of course, the Hosho’s AP bombs will have no issue penetrating the citadel but I don’t think that any battleship on low tier is safe from these bombs.

middle section2.JPG

The sloped part of the turtleback is 38 mm thick which, at this tier, is decent protection.

middle section3.JPG

Finally, the upper part of the citadel that is behind the spaced armor of 203 mm is 51 mm thick. While it is decent, battleships might be able to penetrate it so overall, this ship will require you to stay well angled. While it’s not easy if you want to bring all your guns to bear at the front, when kiting, it shouldn’t be an issue.

The superstructure

superstructure.JPG

Here are even more reasons to cry for cruisers. The ship has the usual 16 mm superstructure of battleships at Tier III but as you can see, it is very small. Good luck hitting it to get damage with your HE.

The stern section

stern.JPG

You remember the incredibly strong bow armor? Well, it’s the same situation on the stern. The deck is 38 mm thick, the upper belt is 102 mm and finally, the extended armor belt is 127 mm.

stern2

You also have 2 armored decks with the upper deck being 25 mm thick and the second one is only 13 mm thick with 38 mm sloped sides.

stern5.png

For the lower part of the rear athwartship of the citadel, it is once again thinly armored with 19 mm. The casemates on the side but also at the top are also 19 mm thick. I guess they were running out of steel to protect the interior after all the armor they used on the exterior.

stern6.png

Finally, the upper part of the citadel athwartship is protected by 38 mm of armor.

The turrets

turret.JPG

So for the turrets, the face, the sides but also the back of the turrets are 203 mm thick. This is the weakest turret protection for the face of the turret. All the other battleships at this tier are well above 250 mm.
For the roof, it is 64 mm thick.

Finally, for the barbette, it’s 203 mm thick at the top, then 102 mm thick and finally 51 mm thick.

These turrets conclude our armor analysis. To sum it up, cruisers can cry to deal any meaningful damage to this ship, well angled, it will laugh at battleships but she will not like Hosho’s AP bombs and Langley’s HE bombs.

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