Supertest: German Tier VII Premium Cruiser Weimar
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Ship review
So… the Weimar is yet another premium that can be summarized the following way: “Hey! You see [Insert the name of a ship present in the game]? What If it was armed with [Insert a model of turret with different caliber guns that may or may not be present in the game]?
Now, of course, in some cases such as the Mainz, the gun swaps have a historical basis but here… definitely not. The Weimar is a Yorck on which Wargaming slapped the turrets of a Leipzig-class cruiser (Nürnberg).
When it comes to Yorck herself, she is based on a preliminary design (Entwurf I/10) for the Deutschland-class. This design was armed with eight 210 mm guns in four twin turrets, 2 superfiring at the front and 2 superfiring at the rear.
For the classic reminder, this is a ship in testing, anything can change so don’t look at her like she would already be released.
Hull | Engine | Gun Fire Control System | Main battery | Torpedoes |
Weimar |
Propulsion: 80 000 hp |
FKS Typ 7 Mod. 2 |  150 mm/60 SK C/25 on a Drh Tr C/28 |
G7a T1 |
General Characteristics
| Tier | VII |
| Health | 32 000 HP |
| Torpedo Damage Reduction | 10 % |
| Displacement | 11 482 tons |
| Main Armament | |
| Maximum Firing Range | 15.420 km |
| 150 mm/60 SK C/25 on a Drh Tr C/28 | 4 x 3 150 mm |
| Secondary Armament | |
| Maximum Firing Range | 6.300 km |
| 105 mm/65 SK C/33 on a Dop. L. C/31 mount | 4 x 2 105 mm |
| Torpedo Armament | |
| Maximum Firing Range | 6.000 km |
| 533 mm Drilling | 4 x 3 533 mm |
| Maximum speed | 31 knots |
| Turning Circle Radius | 650 m |
| Rudder Shift Time | 8.8 s |
| Surface Detectability | 11.44 km |
| Air Detectability | 5.94 km |
| Detectability After Firing Main Guns in Smoke | 7.13 km |
Main Battery
| 4 x 3 150 mm/60 SK C/25 on a Drh Tr C/28 | |
| Maximum Firing Range | 15.420 km |
| Reloading Time | 5 s |
| 180 Degree Turn Time | 23.7 s |
| Optimal firing angles at the front | 30° |
| Optimal firing angles at the rear | 36° |
| Sigma | 2.00 sigma |
| Maximum Dispersion | 139 m |
| Shells | |
| Type of Projectile | HE – 150 mm Spr.Gr. L/4.4 Kz. |
| Alpha Damage | 1 700 HP |
| Damage | 670 HP |
| Penetration capacity | 38 mm |
| Explosion size | 0.54 |
| Fire chance | 8 % |
| Projectile Speed | 960 m/s |
| Air Drag | 0.331 |
| Projectile Mass | 45.5 kg |
| Type of Projectile | AP – 150 mm P.Spr.Gr. L/3.7 |
| Alpha Damage | 3 900 HP |
| Projectile Speed | 960 m/s |
| Air drag | 0.331 |
| Projectile Mass | 45.5 |
| Projectile Krupp | 1 862 |
| Projectile Detonator | 0.025s |
| Detonator Threshold | 25 mm |
| Ricochet Angles | 45° – 60° |
Secondary battery
| 4 x 2 105 mm/65 SK C/33 on a Dop. L. C/31 mount | |
| Maximum Firing Range | 6.300 km |
| Reloading Time | 3.35 s |
| Sigma | 1.00 sigma |
| Shells | |
| Type of Projectile | HE – 105 mm Spr.Gr. Kz. |
| Alpha Damage | 1 200 HP |
| Damage | 330 HP |
| HE penetration | 26 mm |
| Explosion Size | 0.31 |
| Chance to Cause Fire | 5 % |
| Projectile Speed | 900 m/s |
| Air Drag | 0.33 |
| Projectile Mass | 15.1 kg |
Torpedo Armament
| 4 x 3 533 mm Drilling G7a T1 | |
| Reloading Time | 68 s |
| Maximum Distance | 6.000 km |
| Optimal firing angles at the front | 25° |
| Optimal firing angles at the rear | 30° |
| Damage | 13 700 |
| Flooding Chance | 227 % |
| Speed | 64 kt |
| Surface Detectability | 1.3 km |
Anti-air Armament
| 4 x 2 105 mm/65 SK C/33 on a Dop. L. C/31 mount | |
| Sector range | 0.1 km – 5.2 km |
| Hit chance | 100 % |
| Sector’s damage | 26 |
| Sector’s damage frequency | 0.29 s |
| Sector’s damage per second | 91 |
| Flak clouds number | 4 |
| Flak cloud damage | 1 330 |
| 6 x 1 40 mm/56 Flak 28 on a single mount | |
| Sector range | 0.1 km – 3.5 km |
| Hit chance | 90 % |
| Sector’s damage | 25 |
| Sector’s damage frequency | 0.29 s |
| Sector’s damage per second | 88 |
| 8 x 2 20 mm/65 C/38 on a twin mount 4 x 4 20 mm/65 C/38 on a Flak 35 Vierling L/38 mount 4 x 1 20 mm/65 C/38 on an L/30 single mount | |
| Sector range | 0.1 km – 2.0 km |
| Hit chance | 85 % |
| Sector’s damage | 45 |
| Sector’s damage frequency | 0.29 s |
| Sector’s damage per second | 158 |
Consumables
Slot 1 | Slot 2 | Slot 3 | Slot 4 |
Damage Control Party  Work time: 5 sCooldown: 60 s | Hydroacoustic Search  Number of charges: 3Work time: 110 s Cooldown: 120 s Torpedo spotting range: 3.8 km Ship spotting range: 5.5 km | Engine Boost  Number of charges: 3Work time: 180 s Cooldown: 90 s Boost: +15% speed | Fighter  Number of charges: 3Work time: 60 s Cooldown: 90 s Number of planes in a squadron: 3 |
Defensive AA Fire  Number of charges: 3Work time: 40 s Cooldown: 80 s Continuous Damage: +50% Damage from shell explosions: +300% |
The Armor
The armor of the Weimar is, as you could expect, almost the same as on the Yorck.
General armor protection:
Front and rear armor protection of the middle section
Citadel armor protection
Hidden armored deck inside the stern
Turrets armor protection
Personal opinion
Well… right now, if you listen carefully, you can hear the München crying in the background.
The Weimar has a shorter range and when her 15% Engine boost isn’t active, she is much slower. Her concealment is also nowhere near as good but then…. 50% more firepower, much better ballistic, better survivability as a whole, better torpedo armament, better maneuverability.
On paper, the Weimar just looks straight up overpowered with the firepower and mobility that she displays. I will wait to see her in action but I’m really expecting her to get nerfed soon.
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Exactly my thoughts, that thing is bound to get a sledgehammer nerf
What this ship should get is cancelled. It’s completely pointless even if they nerf it into something balanced. Why does Germany need TWO Tier VII light cruiser premiums?
Guess this confirms the death of the German CL line as there are no longer anymore candidates for the branch anymore, since they have to make fake ships by combining real ideas now, something they did if a line lacked at least one or two candidates for a tier.
Looks like WoWS is going the path of WoT when it comes to development, killing off future lines for minor profits reducing the games longevity in the process.
I have never seen a CL line with the Germans. Because here a Big Cruiser Line (in German Panzerschiffe) would be more suitable. There are enough ships for this: Deutschland cl***, D cl*** cruiser, P cl*** cruiser…
Actually you are wrong, WG didn’t used Q cl***, OG Seydlitz design and autoloader 150 mm guns, So There’s actually possibility of T7 – T10 CL line. Q cl*** is slightly larger M cl*** CL also considered as modified M cl*** CL, Seydlitz supposed to have 55 caliber guns instead of 60 caliber that Mainz has, WG used C/41 autoloader guns on München’s testing last year, They can use said autoloader on T9 and T10, Elbing and Felix basically has CL turrets, just like Hindenburg WG can create full fabricated design for T10 with those turrets. So possibilty of German CL line still exists.
Please not that autoloader nonsense again or are there any sources for it? The cruiser Q is also not a real improvement on the M-Cl*** (only more range and air defense). And where does Fantasy Hindenburg CL turrets have? And no, because of that I don’t see a CL line and I don’t want to have more copy & paste and fantasy ships (nothing else would be your suggestion). A super cruiser line still makes more sense to me.