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Supertest: French Tier VIII Premium cruiser Bayard

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Alright, there are 15 ships that require a stat review so let’s not lose time and have a look at the tier VIII premium French cruiser Bayard.

When the Bayard was first revealed, I said that I had no idea of what was the ship. Turns out that it’s an actual project. To be more precise, it was a project from 1945 regarding a light cruiser carrying 4 triple turrets with 152 mm guns. Works were abandoned on this project in January 1948. In the end, the French navy only built/completed the anti-air cruisers De Grasse and Colbert.

The Bayard, as we have it in game, retains a similar superstructure to the De Grasse and Colbert but with that 4 x 3 152 mm setup.

The ship also has a unique HE penetration rule (caliber/5) which allows her to penetrate 29 mm of armor and 38 mm with IFHE.

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Modules
Hull
Engine
Gun Fire Control System
Main battery
Torpedoes

Bayard

Propulsion: 120 000 HP

PCA n° 8 Mle 1

152 mm/55 Mle 1930

550 mm 23DT

Please Note
All stats are listed without crew and upgrade modifiers but with best available modules. The stats are subject to change during the testing.
Characteristics
GeneralMain BatterySecondariesTorpedo TubesAir DefenseConsumables
TierVIII
Health34 700 HP
Main Armament
Maximum Firing Range17.440 km
152 mm/55 Mle 19304 x 3 152 mm
Secondary Armament
Maximum Firing Range5.00 km
100 mm/55 CAD Mle 19454 x 2 100 mm
Torpedo Armament
Maximum Firing Range9.00 km
550 mm tube lance-torpilles2 x 3 550 mm
Maximum speed34 kt
Turning Circle Radius730 m
Rudder Shift Time9.3 s
Surface Detectability12.24 km
Air Detectability6.36 km
Detectability After Firing Main Gus in Smoke5.9 km
4 × 3 152 mm/55 Mle 1930
180 Degree Turn Time15.0 s
Reloading Time7.5 s
Optimal fronfiring angle
40°
Optimal rear firing angle40°
Sigma2.00 sigma
Maximum Dispersion153 m
Shells
Type of ProjectileHE
Alpha Damage2 200 HP
Damage790 HP
HE penetration29 mm
Explosion Size0.58
Chance to Cause Fire12 %
Projectile Speed870 m/s
Air Drag0.34
Projectile Mass55
Projectile Krupp1
Type of ProjectileAP
Alpha Damage3 300 HP
Chance to Cause Fire-0.5 %
Projectile Speed870 m/s
Air Drag0.323
Projectile Mass57.1
Projectile Krupp2 225
Projectile Detonator0.025 s
4 x 2 100 mm/55 CAD Mle 1945
Reloading Time3.0 s
Sigma1.00 sigma
Horizontal Dispersion50 m
Vertical Dispersion110 m
Shells
Type of ProjectileHE
Alpha Damage1 400 HP
Damage300 HP
HE penetration16 mm
Explosion Size0.29
Chance to Cause Fire5 %
Projectile Speed855 m/s
Air Drag0.314
Projectile Mass13.32
Projectile Krupp1
2 x 3 550 mm tube lance-torpilles
Reloading Time90 s
Maximum Distance9.0 km
Optimal fronfiring angle21°
Optimal rear firing angle21°
Damage14 833
Speed60 kt
Surface Detectability1.3 km
4 x 2 100 mm/55 CAD Mle 1945
Sector range3.8 km – 5.8 km
Hit chance85 %
Sector’s damage300
Sector’s damage frequency3.38 s
Sector’s damage per second89
Flak clouds number4
Flak cloud damage1190
6 x 2 57 mm/60 ACAD Mle 1951
Sector range1.0 km – 3.8 km
Hit chance85 %
Sector’s damage290
Sector’s damage frequency0.65 s
Sector’s damage per second446
Flak clouds number7
Flak cloud damage980
Sector reinforcement
Sector reinforcement bonus+25%
Sector reinforcement time10 s
Sector reinforcement shift time10 s
Slot 1
Slot 2
Slot 3
Slot 4
Work time: 5 s
Cooldown: 90 s
Number of charges: 2
Work time: 40 s
Cooldown: 120 s
Number of charges: 2
Work time: 180 s
Cooldown: 120 s
Boost: +20% maximum speed
Number of charges: 3
Work time: 15 s
Cooldown: 180 s
Boost: -50% main battery reload time
Work time: 5 s
Cooldown: 60 s
Number of charges: 3
Work time: 40 s
Cooldown: 80 s
Number of charges: 3
Work time: 180 s
Cooldown: 90 s
Boost: +20% maximum speed
Number of charges: 4
Work time: 15 s
Cooldown: 120 s
Boost: -50% main battery reload time
Number of charges: 2
Work time: 100 s
Cooldown: 180 s
Torpedo spotting range: 3.5 km
Ship spotting range: 5.0 km
Number of charges: 3
Work time: 100 s
Cooldown: 120 s
Torpedo spotting range: 3.5 km
Ship spotting range: 5.0 km

The armor analysis

general.JPG

The Bayard is…. quite a weird ship when it comes to armor. There are both really good parts and… really bad parts.
Overall, what I see is a ship that will be extremely trolly to shoot at. It really looks like an overpenetration fiesta.

The bow section

bow1.JPG

“When you see a bow that green, it can’t be good”. This is literally what I thought when I first look at the model.
Well… turns out that I was right because the bow armor is 13 mm thick. It is terribly bad. 13 mm means that AP shells with a caliber of 203 mm and higher will overmatch this bow. Considering the number of heavy cruisers in high tier, it will not be very fun because you will not be able to effectively angle against their AP the way you would do with another cruiser.

I’m just crossing fingers that Wargaming buffs that at least to 16 mm.

bow2.JPG

For the protection of the middle section, the upper part is 28 mm thick so…. well it won’t protect much but big caliber shell won’t easily arm on it.

The athwartship of the citadel, as well as the small bit of casemate just above, is a bit of saving grace. The citadel’s athwartship is indeed exactly starting at the waterline with first a 90 mm plate and then lower a 45 mm plate.

Here are 2 other visuals to see the citadel (surrounded in black on the left and red on the right) a bit better.
Overall, it represents a very small surface compared to the rest of the middle section’s protection.

Bow7.png

The middle section

mid1.JPG

Who says French cruisers automatically says spaced armor and Bayard doesn’t fail to this rule. The citadel has indeed a similar shape to the one of the Henri IV.
The deck and the side armor of the Bayard are 27 mm thick. This is a good point because it will allow the ship to bounce the AP from 380 or 381 mm guns which are relatively common calibers at this tier.
The main belt (in red) is 105 mm thick for the most part except under the turrets where it gets up to 120 mm.

mid2.JPG

mid3.JPG

The main armor deck protecting the citadel is 38 mm thick for the middle part and 19 mm thick under the turrets. With some luck, IJN AP bombs will overpenetrate the middle section and battleship AP will do the same for the extremities but needs to be seen.

mid5.JPG

mid4

The citadel’s side armor is 25 mm thick and as you can see on the 2nd picture, the citadel is very narrow. This could possibly lead to quite a lot of overpenetrations (or to a sudden and painful devastating strike due to the thin armor) but when I see how the citadel can be trolly on Henri IV, I have good faith on that one.
One thing to note is that it is going above the waterline for the middle part.

The armor protecting the section where the citadel is rising is 90 mm at the front and 70 mm at the rear.

The stern section

stern1.JPG

Remember the 13 mm bow armor? Well, it is the same for the stern. On top of that, it, of course, has the good old weak french cruisers rudder (with the exception of Henri IV) which means that the rudder will get jammed quite easily.

stern4.JPG

For the rear protection of the middle section, the upper part is 28 mm thick so once again, it will not protect you much.

For the lower part including the citadel (surrounded in black), it is 70 mm thick and then 38 mm thick. Just like at the front, the citadel is starting right at the waterline and thanks to its small size, should be relatively hard to hit.

The superstructure

Supers.JPG

The superstructure is protected by 13 mm of armor and I’m not sure if it’s just me but it looks quite big compared to the rest of the ship.
Overall, it really seems to represent a fairly large target for HE spam.

The turrets

turrets.JPG

Well, these are light cruiser turrets so don’t expect something amazing. The face is 100 mm thick, the sides, as well as the roof, are 50 mm thick and the back is 40 mm thick.
For the barbette, the upper part is 95 mm thick and the lower part is 70 mm thick.

Personal opinion on the ship

I am seriously split. On one hand, the ship looks like a solid HE spammer and roaming cruiser. The DPM is indeed pretty good with on top of that the reload booster and with the engine boost and flag, she can reach 42.8 knots.
On the other hand, the armor seems to be a bit of a massive gamble. From the look of it, it will either be a cold and instantaneous deletion or an overpenetration fiesta. The firing angles, get me a bit worried as well. Also, the HP pool is relatively low so I think that this ship will require careful play.
As for the anti-air, I think that CVs will not appreciate to meet you.

Well, in the end, we will just see…

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15,466 thoughts on “Supertest: French Tier VIII Premium cruiser Bayard

  1. Good review, Yuzorah! Interesting to find so many details about this unique ship. I like your “overpenentration fiesta” term, will be curious to see how this turns out in practice. Regards, Midway

  2. Sounds like this one will make for good target practice, haha! Look forward to sinking uhhh seeing her already 😎

  3. … especially with Tier 8 so often being bottom-tiered in with Tier 9- and 10-battles. Scary thought to then have such “armour” (13 mm?! The average desktop in an officer’s cabin is thicker than that!)

  4. Hmmm, I have the feeling that when I see this ship in my bb I will switch to he and delate her with m***ive he dmg as with such thin armor it might even get citadelled by he

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