World of Tanks

Sandbox 2.0 Penetration Changes

Hello everyone,

I’ve received an email today from one of you readers with some information about the penetration changes currently under test on Sandbox 2.0. The author, who asked to stay anonymous, calculated all the values using the information provided by Wargaming on the Sandbox Blogthe information was not data mined neither this is a leak directly from the Sandbox server. I’ve to admit this might have taken him some time to do, so a big thanks to him.


Please keep in mind these changes are still in test, meaning they might never come to the live server or come in a changed form


As you might be aware, Wargaming is testing new penetration over distance mechanics. The idea is to make armour thickness more relevant and get players to have close range engagements because they won’t have the penetration needed to get the job done.

Penetration values of AP and APCR shells begin decreasing at 50 m (instead of 100 m), and they lose 18% and 23% of their initial values at 500 m.

While I agree with the basics of this idea, it can also be something that might break the game and force World of Tanks into a path I don’t want. It’s not the first time this is being tested, on Sandbox 1.0 similar mechanics were tested but with much higher penetration loss over distance.

Wargaming is now testing with different values and an internal test is not enough, they need more information from us players to see if these are good or bad changes. This is the reason why we got it on Sandbox 2.0 and the reason that all of these values will most likely either change or not even come to the live server.

The information is organized by Nation and Weapon, where it contains the ammo type, old value/new value and the difference in mm and percentage. There might be some guns or ammunitions missing, but I’m only posting values that were calculated and sent to me.

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China

122mm 60-122T

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 249 249/244 235/204 -5/-31 -2/-13
Standard 258 258/253 244/212 -5/-31 -2/-13

Czechoslovakia

100mm AK1

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 248 248/225 235/191 -6/-34 -3/-15

France

90mm F3

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 170 170/167 145/139 -3/-6 -2/-4
Premium 248 248/242 224/191 -6/-33 -3/-15

100mm SA 47

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 232 232/227 205/190 -5/-15 -2/-7
Premium 263 263/253 253/203 -7/-50 -3/-20

105mm CN 105 57

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 259 259/252 249/199 -7/-50 -3/-20

105mm mle F1

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 260 260/253 250/200 -7/-50 -3/-7

120mm SA 46

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 257 257/252 237/211 -5/-26 -2/-11
Premium 325 325/317 297/250 -8/-47 -3/-16

155mm SA 58 AC

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 293 293/287 283/240 -6/-43 -2/-15

Germany

90mm Rheinmetall L/40

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 190 190/186 170/156 -4/-14 -2/-8

105mm L/52 Ausf. K

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 270 270/263 260/208 -7/-52 -3/-20

105mm L7A3

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 268 268/261 258/206 -7/-52 -3/-20

12.8cm L/55

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 246 246/241 241/202 -5/-39 -2/-16
Premium 311 311/303 263/239 -8/-24 -3/-9

21cm Morser 18

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 303 303/283 297/248 -6/-35 -2/-12

15cm L/38

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 235 235/230 220/193 -5/-27 -2/-12

15cm L/63

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 279 279/273 270/229 -6/-41 -2/-15

17cm K72

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 299 299/293 289/245 -6/-44 -2/-15

Japan

105mm Rifled Gun

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 258 258/251 248/199 -7/-49 -3/-20

14cm 3rd Year Type

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 249 249/244 219/204 -5/-15 -2/-7
Premium 282 282/276 247/231 -6/-16 -2/-6

Sweden

120mm Akan L/40

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 252 252/246 228/194 -6/-34 -3/-15

105mm Strv 103 L/62

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 308 308/300 298/238 -8/-60 -3/-20
Premium 350 350/341 340/270 -9/-70 -3/-21

United Kingdom

105mm L7 HEAT

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 268 268/261 258/206 -7/-52 -3/-20

120mm L1A1

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 259 259/254 239/212 -5/-27 -2/-11
Premium 326 326/318 298/254 -8/-47 -3/-16

183mm AT Gun

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 310 310/304 300/254 -6/-46 -2/-15

USA

90mm M41

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 181 181/177 170/148 -4/-22 -2/-13
Premium 263 263/256 242/203 -7/-39 -3/-16

105mm T5E1M2

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 218 218/214 193/179 -4/-14 -2/-7
Premium 265 265/261 258/204 -7/-17 -3/-8

105mm M68

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 268 268/261 258/206 -7/-52 -3/-20

120mm T179 & M58

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 258 258/253 238/212 -5/-26 -2/-11

155mm T7E2

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 295 295/289 285/242 -6/-43 -2/-15
Premium 375 275/365 365/284 -10/-76 -3/-21

240mm M1

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 370 370/363 365/289 -7/-52 -2/-15

USSR

100mm D10T & Obr 45

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 175 175/172 155/144 -3/-11 -2/-7
Premium 238 238/232 208/181 -3/-27 -1/-13

100mm D54TS

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 264 264/257 254/203 -7/-51 -3/-20

122mm D25T Wedge

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 175 175/172 152/144 -3/-8 -2/-5
Premium 217 217/211 204/167 -6/-37 -3/-18

122mm M62-T2

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 258 258/253 250/212 -5/-38 -2/-15

130mm S70

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 250 250/245 240/205 -5/-35 -2/-15
Premium 303 303/295 263/233 -8/-30 -3/-11

130mm S70A

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 290 290/284 280/238 -6/-52 -2/-15
Premium 330 330/322 320/254 -8/-66 -3/-21

152mm M64

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 303 303/297 293/248 -6/-45 -2/-15

180mm B-1-P

Ammo 50m
100m 500m Δ mm Δ %
Standard 360 360/353 350/295 -7/-55 -2/-16
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2 comments

  1. so prohovorka camping line i am in scout and i spot ht with allot of armor even i have allot of tanks bh me to shoot him on 400-500 meters they pen 20 percent if i am lucky so scouts get screwed here also

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    1. Well, all these changes is WG trying to get a more specific role for each tank. I like these changes but also don’t like them. While it forces HT to get closer to engage in combat and pen, it makes things worse for “snipers glass tanks”, like the Grile 15 for example. Mediums are kinda in the middle, some are still good, some have lost a lot. But, these are still in test and might not even come to the server.

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